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[00:00:00] I'm glad it's over. It's over. I do appreciate you starting me off with Outlast because the jumpscares weren't too bad because they're not like gory and humane things. Yeah. It's different. It's different for sure, but hey, you don't have to do any more horror for quite some time.
[00:00:23] Out of context summary. In this episode, there's our rat baby. We have to go to the bathroom, but it's occupied. And we're stalked by a teddy bear. Thank you for coming back from our replay reviews. My name is Leah and my name is Kathy.
[00:00:41] We are two friends who are here to replay review and analyze your favorite video games. And since Kathy has never seen the games before, it helps me view them through her fresh eyes, almost like I'm discovering them again for the first time.
[00:00:53] We hope it'll be a similar experience for you. Scene one, we are on the hunt for the fourth piece of the painting. So there's a moment where we go into like a kid's room and there's like drawings all
[00:01:11] over the floor and it's obviously done by a kid with some crayons. And in all the different doors that he opens up, there's different words. I think once like selfish, then you fast forward into seeing a murdery drawing. And there's that black tar.
[00:01:29] I'm assuming it's associated with our main character. And I feel like the kid, like the way it implies is the kid's calling himself ish. And then he's, are she later commits murder? I don't know. I don't know either.
[00:01:47] We find a party hat on a stuffed bear and when it's picked up, the voice says, Hey, what is that? Wait, what day is it? It's Sunday. You mean I, well, why didn't you come and get me? God damn it.
[00:02:08] You know how I get when I'm caught up in my work. Well, the real question is, was he busy painting or was he busy just being drunk? I mean, he says he's caught up in his work.
[00:02:19] But what this caught up in my work really mean pretty quickly after that, I think there's a teddy bear in the window, like three minutes, 14 seconds staring at us, but right next to it, right next to the peeping teddy.
[00:02:35] We find a pair of baby shoes, which reveals the next memory. Sweet Jesus. Did you just buy half of the department store? Honey, you don't even know yet if it's going to be a boy or a girl. So confirmed she's pregnant now. Anything before the checkers?
[00:02:56] Well, there's also like a heart drawing on the wall and you can hear it like actually beating. And then there's like crying along with it. That's really the first time we've seen drawings on the wall that move. And I don't know if we see that again.
[00:03:12] So I'm not exactly sure what that symbolizes, but we play the game of checkers that's right by this drawing. Seemingly with a ghost, we pick up one of the checkers and here you beat me again. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother.
[00:03:29] Good thing we didn't bet on it. What? What's so funny? What's going on here? Why is she laughing after he said good thing we didn't bet on it? I mean, it's a losing bet for him. I don't know. Yeah, I don't I don't understand that.
[00:03:46] I don't know what she's laughing about. Things get really baby themed and doll themed for the next few minutes. And like, I'm sorry, I find it all to just be hilarious, especially the baby running into the wall. There's this doll just sprinting and then it hits the wall.
[00:04:09] There's a lot of dolls in this part, though. Dolls falling from the ceiling. Just it's a lot of creepy dolls in a single room. It's funny to me. I feel like it's supposed to be more scary than funny.
[00:04:23] But to me, it just feels like one of those comedy horror movies in the middle of all this baby doll stuff. We find a perfume bottle in here, the woman's voice again, saying, I had the most beautiful dream last night.
[00:04:37] I dreamt he came to me, embraced me, loved me as he once did. But we both know that while I dreamed my silly little dream, it was you, it was you he really lusted for. So is this the same voice that we heard previously?
[00:04:57] Yes, but I'm thinking there's actually a third person. So we know there's the main character. There's probably his wife that I'm thinking as the same person throughout the game. And then you have the child and I'm thinking it's his third person. And that's who she's referring to.
[00:05:13] That's what I thought in part one, but after seeing this now for the fourth time, I have a different thought, but I'm going to hold off for now until we get more evidence. But in the nursery, we first see a series of drawings on the wall.
[00:05:26] And this is what I am seeing first like a happy family of three. And then the mom is now in a wheelchair and the dad appears to be upset. The third one is the dad, I think looks like a monster now. And the little girl looks scared.
[00:05:43] I thought that the dad was the one in the wheelchair because he was the ones like, oh, you're going to have to carry me up the stairs. So I always had an impression that he was the one in a wheelchair
[00:05:55] that somehow can walk now because we're taking on the perspective of him. We've gone back and forth on who the wheelchair belongs to. But let me find this scene. I'm going to play this for you again, because I'm fairly certain
[00:06:10] after watching it this time that it's the mom in the wheelchair. Yes, you're right. The dad is the angry one and the mom's in the wheelchair. And now mom is gone. Dad is looking wild. And there's red streaks everywhere. Mm hmm.
[00:06:28] And then following that is writing on the wall. And the first one says, hush little baby, the night is stark. And then stars fade above you, the room goes dark. Mommy used to come tuck you in. Now she's never to be seen.
[00:06:45] And my biggest problem with that is why did it stop rhyming? The rhyme ended. Well, the question is who's writing this? Is it the kid? I don't know because she doesn't quite seem old enough to know words like stark.
[00:06:57] What about all the selfish and the other words that we see throughout the game? Who's writing those? My theory of the Eileen towards is he's just seeing this stuff or it's stuff that she used to say to him, his wife used to say to him
[00:07:10] that just sticks in his brain now. So I don't know if it's actually written on the walls or if he's just imagining it there. But I think he's sort of replaying things that she said to him. All right.
[00:07:22] So after the light show, we find a lock of hair in the crib in here. This was a special brush like a horsehair brush, but different. At that point I hesitated, will this really work? Fuck it. I was already halfway through.
[00:07:38] And besides, it's not like I can just put it all back and forget the whole thing. Did he cut his daughter's hair off or his wife's hair off? The hair is another part that he's taking it.
[00:07:50] I don't know who it is, but it's whoever has been their human body parts have been harvested by them. It's the same person and that's that person's hair. Yeah, because it makes more sense to me if it's the same person.
[00:08:03] I just get confused as to why it's in the crib. Maybe it's the whole mama used to tuck you in. So that's why it's by the bed. But we add the hair slash brush to the painting. It shifts into like a zombie.
[00:08:15] And it's giving real like trigger vibes. Yeah. It is. It's making you wonder what's the common thread with all these paintings so far. What do you mean by all the paintings? When we see all the paintings are at the games, each one kind of morse.
[00:08:32] Are you just talking about in this room? Oh, just in the game so far. OK. Like all the different paintings that we kind of focus on. The first time we look at it, it kind of bleeds into like the behind the scenes, like the flesh of the things.
[00:08:48] And this one looks like it's already unhidden. That the blood in the flesh is of the painting. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it. Yeah, I think I get kind of what you mean because.
[00:08:59] Yeah, it feels like as the game progresses and I noticed in this half of the game, things seem to get more intense and I feel like we see more paranormal activity and more of these paintings shifting before our eyes.
[00:09:12] So I think that's maybe what you're what you're getting at. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I think maybe he's just descending farther and farther into this terrifying pattern of delusion. OK, we've got two pieces left. So in scene two, we find the fifth one.
[00:09:31] So we also see a grandfather clock and the time is like moving forward, I believe. I'm wondering if that has to do with anything or if it just is one of those extra details that they try to make the game show.
[00:09:47] Like he's traveling forward back in time to its current state or versus his memory to show which state he's in. Yeah, that's a good question because it's not the first time we've seen a clock. We've been jump scared by one a couple times even.
[00:10:03] So I don't know what could symbolize maybe just his confusion of time because that seems to be something that's happening. All right. So after wandering around a bit, we pick up a bottle of whiskey and another memory plays. Hey there, Princess. What? Oh, this is daddy's medicine.
[00:10:25] Whenever daddy's hurting, this helps the hurt go away. No, don't touch that. Oh, God, I'm so wait, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Did he hit her? I think so. And I think it's a good indicator that he has a drinking issue.
[00:10:46] Either he hit her or either his tone of voice just scared her. I don't know which one it is. I'm leaning towards him hitting her or at least like forcefully grabbing her away, like grabbing her arm and pulling her away.
[00:10:59] Something that was probably just a little more intense than needed to be. So there's a point where we enter a room that looks kind of basementy and creepy. And there's like a chain hanging from the ceiling.
[00:11:13] And when we pull it, it sounds like it's perhaps connected to somebody in a painful way because there are like shrieks and painful cries every time we pull on the chain. Who's being tortured? What is this?
[00:11:27] Is it his wife, maybe chained to a wheelchair and something like that? I don't know. It's really odd to me because it sounds more like a man. But I don't feel like I want it to be a man.
[00:11:41] I feel like that doesn't make sense in the context of the game. And this is where I kind of go back to is he a serial killer? But that's not my theory anymore. So I don't. I don't understand what it is on the other end of this chain.
[00:11:53] And there's a lot of crying from here on out. And I don't know if it's all the same person. Because there's like two distinct cries. And I don't know if one is a baby and one is the wife.
[00:12:07] Continuing on, we find a pile of broken paint brushes, which reveals another quote. Fuck, do it for me. My dear. I want it back. You hear me? I will bring you back. Drag it. I have to. I will make it right.
[00:12:31] Honey, I promise I will make you right. My first note on this is that he sounds much more unstable than he has. Yeah. And he sounds more bipolar because he goes from like confused to like anger real quickly. And I will make you right.
[00:12:51] Like who says that besides an abuser? And this is where my theory begins. But I don't know if I want to share it yet. So just remember that quote. And we'll keep going for now. Do you have anything before the clock? Hickory dickory dot clock.
[00:13:12] That's my next note. All right, so yeah, we find this chest with a clock inside. Hickory dickory dock. The mouse man of the clock. The clock struck one. Horror ran down. Hickory dickory dock. Anything he's getting crazier progressively. Also, pretty sure that's not how the song goes.
[00:13:36] Yeah, I don't. This one I don't. I don't know. But another clock to your point. We saw earlier one of the little rat just guiding us and waiting for us. And I'm wondering if this rat is maybe like the good spirit trying to guide us through the house.
[00:13:55] I love that little rat. He's so cute. His little eyes. I'll give you a little bit more information on this from my first play through when I was collecting notes. You can find a ton of rat traps. You can find a letter from an exterminator.
[00:14:10] You find lots of sketches about rats, and it seems like some of them are maybe real and some of them are more hallucinations. So there's something about the rats that really gets to him. Again, jumping ahead to the next item, it's a compact mirror.
[00:14:25] And we hear a woman saying, you know, even though you are my rival and the source of all my sorrows, you're also the only one I can still talk to. The only one who will listen. I'm not sure if it's funny or merely pathetic. Probably both.
[00:14:46] And so this is when I because we've been thinking maybe there's an affair going on, and this feels like it would solidify that. But for some reason, I just feel like that's not what she's talking about. And I almost feel like it'll explain more later.
[00:15:05] I feel like she's talking to maybe a portrait of herself or of another woman or just to the paintings in general. OK, I can see that. I feel like that would work. I thought this was before they were married.
[00:15:22] And this is when they're still he's still trying to like flirt with her terribly, flirt with her. That's my first thought. But I could totally see her talking to a nonhuman about this. So in the library room, there's a hidden phone that rings.
[00:15:41] And when we find it and answer it, a woman says, talk to me. Why don't you talk to me? Then we play some phone tag, find the next phone call. And she says, you promised the third phone says this solves nothing. It never has it never will.
[00:15:57] And the fourth and final call says you deserve this all of it. And then that sort of fades out as the phone melts. Anything before we discuss what comes out of the phone? Well, it's not Andrew Ehrlicker. I'm going to say that. Well, talk about the discussion first,
[00:16:15] but it starts with talk to me. Why don't you talk to me? And I'm assuming this kind of goes in chronological order, but this is probably starting at the downfall of him and his carpelling alcoholic addiction. Maybe she's talking to a bottle of alcohol.
[00:16:36] No, but it's obviously it's directed to him and it's him with his alcohol addiction. She's trying to help him and he probably doesn't want help. And then she just kind of gets mad in the end. She just like, forget it. You're in a mess. You deserve this.
[00:16:54] And I'm not going to deal with it anymore. And then her saying this solves nothing never has never will. That might be maybe the necklace that we find later. Maybe he gives her gifts or maybe she's talking about him drinking, just drowning his sorrows.
[00:17:12] But out of the melted phone pops out a finger. I needed something to add the how should I put it? Final touches. A finger. I needed a finger. Chopped it off easier than sawing a leg, washed it, dried it in an oven, fell asleep, almost burned it.
[00:17:34] Will I manage to pull this off? OK, number one. Does this mean that he has sawed a leg off before? Yeah, yeah. It's disturbing. Who is this guy? And what is he need a finger? Is he using this finger as a paintbrush for like finger painting or?
[00:17:54] I think it's like the like a texturing tool like he's using it to add texture to the painting. Is I imagine like what is he apparently not? And it has to be dry for some reason, too. I'm well, oh God, I don't even know what to think.
[00:18:11] Maybe drying it out preserves it. So it's not just a one use tool. But anyway, number two, is he putting his wife in the painting as a way to hide her body? Oh, God. Whoa, I'm I'm a bit shocked that
[00:18:28] is he using her body parts to make his final painting? I think so. Like we've been wondering, is it multiple women? Is it multiple people? Oh my God, I'm leading towards it just being her now at this point. Yeah, yeah.
[00:18:46] OK, well, the next point I have is looking at the desk. So in the desk, one of the drawer he opens up has like a bunch of these metals, and it looks almost like something you would give to a war vet or something.
[00:19:01] And that's why I was still kind of flip flopping, thinking that maybe he's the one in a wheelchair because he's a survivor or not in a wheelchair, but he has some injuries because he was a war vet and he got metals.
[00:19:18] Is he in a wheelchair then or did he feel better or was this? I don't know. What do you think? You know, these are these are good valid questions because I think the game does a little too much to confuse us.
[00:19:32] I don't know if it's purposeful with with the whole wheelchair thing because they introduced that he has a lamp and that there's something wrong with his leg, which. Maybe that he lost his leg in a war or something.
[00:19:44] And what that has to do with the game as a whole, I'm not sure why his limp, what that would have to do with anything, except maybe it's just a hint he was in war. Maybe that, you know, brings some PTSD into this whole thing
[00:19:54] and gives a reason for why he's so unhinged. But I think it's a little bit too confusing because they show us the wife in the wheelchair, but then they also highlight that he has a limp. So it's it's confusing, I think.
[00:20:07] Yet he jokes that she shall need to carry him up. And like, she's in a wheelchair, like you can sit in her lap and you guys can go up the elevator. But what? I don't think she's in a wheelchair at that point. Well, we'll just break her legs.
[00:20:24] We'll discuss. Sawed off her leg. No, we'll just. Maybe he's on his own leg. Because here's what I've been thinking. It's not her leg is just because we've put every other part of her in this painting. So I would they mentioned the leg
[00:20:38] and not have that added to the painting, which it still could be. But now that we're talking about like the war and his limp, I'm wondering, did he have to saw his leg off either from a war injury or just for whatever reason?
[00:20:54] Well, I don't think you'd be sawing off his own leg if he's in war. There's going to be other people around that thing. You wouldn't think so. But maybe even he even just witnessed it. And I will say we might just be going down
[00:21:07] a rabbit trail here because I have seen these medals and other drawers so it could just be standard like background aesthetic, you know, to add things to make it look lived in. So it could just be nothing. Yeah. But I kind of I kind of like these theories.
[00:21:22] Yes. All right. So back in the studio, we add the finger to the painting and the zombie turns into a slightly less dead looking woman. So OK, we've come a long way since the smudges and the flamingos. There's a room with weird rat lady paintings.
[00:21:39] And in one of these paintings, we find a dead rat and we hear, do you mind explaining this to me? I know what it is. Care to tell me how it got in my workshop stop line. We both know it couldn't have gotten there on its own.
[00:21:52] So who's the one putting these rats there? Is it his wife or is this child? We know that the rats bother him. So maybe his wife's putting them in his workshop to just piss them off because he's ignoring her and being drunk.
[00:22:09] Or my other question is, are there actual rats or is he imagining it? He thinks they're lying. They didn't do it because it doesn't exist, but he thinks it's real. And so he's getting angry over nothing. That's my other question is that are we sure these rats exist?
[00:22:27] So I think at the time of this quote, I think they were real and I think he didn't like the rats. And that's why she put one in there to get on his nerves. And maybe all of that sort of just amplified into this weird obsessive
[00:22:41] fear that he has with rats and now he's hallucinating them as a result. So moving on, we find a room with a bed and it erupts into flames. And there's some gauze on the nightstand, which reveals another memory. That hurt. Can she hear us?
[00:23:01] This is all fixable, right? No, you don't understand her face, her hands. I she will be devastated. So is he talking about she's devastated at her own injuries? And this is like a result of a fire that's causing her damage. Or is it her devastation because something happened
[00:23:29] and she can no longer paint and therefore she's mad. And that's why she broke those paint brushes. I will make you write as in how heal her. OK, I'm thinking about what you said because the quotes surrounding the paint brushes, I've never thought about her breaking them.
[00:23:51] So now I'm considering that because I was leaning to it. Well, I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it until we get to the last or second to last quote. Because we need all the information to discuss this.
[00:24:09] But do we think that this is the wife or the daughter? Who's being burnt? I think it's the wife. OK, I think so too. And then just another thing I want to highlight on this for now before we move on is when he talks about her face,
[00:24:25] her hands and then he says I but then changes it to she will be devastated. I think this is a hand that leads me to my overall theory of like he doesn't like the way she looks anymore because her face is burnt.
[00:24:38] Maybe those drawings is of his wife where when you take the gauze off, that's the flesh that has been exposed because of the fire. And when I heard him saying I, I almost thought he was going to like I didn't mean for this to happen
[00:24:54] because the question remains what started the fire? Maybe we should put a pin in this for now, but we both agreed to the wife and yeah, her face is messed up now. Right? OK. Is the necklace your next note?
[00:25:12] All right, so moving on to the necklace we hear. God, I am such an idiot to think that someone like me could ever compete with you in all your sublime beauty, everlasting, immortal. So it's these last two words that really solidified my theory for me, everlasting and immortal.
[00:25:34] Those two quotes make me wonder if she truly is competing with either a portrait of herself or a portrait of another woman. And yeah. And so he's more in love with this portrait. And while she now is disfigured and so can't compete with the portrait
[00:25:56] or the memory of her, then this is where it because we know he's an artist. And that's all he is right? And what do all artists have? And I don't hate artists. OK, I took a lot of art classes in high school and elementary elementary
[00:26:11] middle school. Yeah, you did. I took a lot of art classes. I like I like creativity. I just don't like when that's your only personality trait. So I'm not hating on artists anyway. But all people like this guy, they have a muse, right?
[00:26:26] And so maybe she's his muse, but now that she's disfigured, she's not his muse anymore. And this is why your comment about the paintbrush quote. I had to think about that because when he was saying like you took it from me, I'll get it back.
[00:26:42] I was thinking and this is depending on timeline again by getting it back is her painting a portrait of her as she was rather than as she is now. So he has his muse back. But according to the timeline, I think your point is valid
[00:27:00] if she's just trying to sabotage his work by breaking paintbrushes. Because my thought was that she's also a painter. At first, I thought it was like I can't compete with you and not the painting. Like I could see it going both ways, but one is just like
[00:27:20] kind of saying it's everlasting. That makes me feel like it's it has to do something that stopped in time, which kind of goes back to the clocks. So I don't. Yes. Let me let me add something else to that. OK, because I think you're onto something.
[00:27:40] But we've had more hits to her being a musician. We find the violin and we've heard her playing the piano and we have that one quote where he's like, don't stop playing because like it helps me paint. So maybe even the violin uses.
[00:27:57] Yeah, either she refuses to keep him or her hand is damaged and she can't keep playing for him. She is injured. And that's why he's like, what are you doing up? Or like whatever he says, like you can't play the violin
[00:28:12] is because it's danger or my other crazy theory is that he knows that she knows she can't compete. So he knows that she's going to try to sabotage him. So he needs to hurt her first and therefore breaking her legs and lighting her face on fire. Oh, God.
[00:28:36] Wow. I think we're close. Not long after discovering the necklace, we find a room containing a vanity on which all of these items of the women's that we found so far are on it. And we kind of look at them and then her voice fills the room
[00:28:54] and says, I finally figured it out and it's all thanks to you. You showed me that there is no other way. Even now your sad smile confirms what should have been obvious. We will not speak again. So I don't know if there's anything you want to jump into.
[00:29:09] I feel like this is this is a woman who he has a fair with. I don't feel like this is his wife or it's just really early in the timeline. Like, or it's when they're angry right before her injuries. I don't know what it is.
[00:29:27] Me find that scene because there's something I noticed this time that I didn't notice the other times because there's a mere so is wondering if she's talking to herself. But I noticed this time watching with you, there's a portrait above the mirror.
[00:29:43] So I think she is talking to this painting. Oh, and I don't wish I could zoom in because it might even be the same necklace that we find. I mean, it looks similar. It might be the same necklace. I would be surprised.
[00:30:00] So I'm wondering if this is a portrait of her. Mm hmm. And she's talking to her old non-disfigured self. And when she says like your sad smile, that matches up with that painting too. The sad smile represents her just looking back in time,
[00:30:17] knowing that she was never happy back then. And that's yeah, like an indicator. It's an older portrait. Mm hmm. And now he doesn't like her anymore, which. I think we'll lead into the next. Item. Yes.
[00:30:34] And don't forget that she ended it by saying we will not speak again because then we find a bloody knife in the bathroom. And the quote we hear with this one is what is taking so long? Open this fucking door. I need to go open up.
[00:30:51] Hell is. Oh, God. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What have you done? I think she tried to take her own life because then we look up the tub and maybe she was in the tub and yeah.
[00:31:08] Yeah, I think the reason why is because she can't compete with her old self. And we already know he's obsessed with his artwork. And so he's probably more obsessed with this picture of her at least or maybe even she's just perceiving that
[00:31:24] because he doesn't give her the kind of attention that she used to get. And we know that from her her dream when she says he came to me like he used to. Anything before the eyeball? Nope. I've all sticks. OK, so in the same bathroom in the
[00:31:43] I think bloody tub we stick our face in the water and like see weird visions. I don't really understand what's happening here, but at the end of it we find an eyeball in a jar. And he says finally someone had to bear witness.
[00:31:59] I couldn't just look at my own work. Art and the artist needed an audience, a critical eye on things. I knew what I had to do. I gouged it, scooped it up like ice cream, felt like a butcher,
[00:32:18] a monster, but at least there was to come something beautiful from all this filth. Why did he describe it like that? Why does he describe anything the way he's? That's true. But why would you? Why would you say scooped it up like an ice cream
[00:32:36] when you're talking about gouging someone's eye? Like, who does that? So the eye is, I guess, added to the painting, which then turns into a woman and the artist is very happy at first until it morphs into the same woman, but with a burn mark on her face.
[00:32:52] And then he yells this time I almost had it. And he tosses the painting into a room filled with dozens of identical paintings. So we enter the room, there's either three possible things that are happening. Is that one, he's plagued with the same
[00:33:08] inspiration for the drawing and he keeps drawing it and he only realizes it at the end of it. Two, he's cursed that he can only draw that drawing because it's like a curse of him killing his own wife
[00:33:24] or or whatever, and that's the last image and he can only draw that now. Or three, he can't ever finish what he started like with the art exhibit because he can't make a painting of something else besides that. So first goes back up just a second
[00:33:41] because after he tosses his painting, we wake up back in the house. He finds the key from his office again, unlocks the studio again. And it's just like the start of the game and the same starting painting reveals itself.
[00:33:54] The overall idea is that he can't draw anything else. He's stuck drawing the same thing, whether or not he intends to and can't move on with his life. He's stuck in that same recurring pattern. We get more hints to that because in the cubbies in that studio room,
[00:34:14] that's where we put all of the ingredients that we find. And he writes the quote that he says when he picks them up in the cubby and at the end of the game, not only do we repeat finding the key, coming to this room, the paintings the same.
[00:34:26] We see that this quote has been written over itself multiple times. And so I think it's pretty clear that he's been repeating this process constantly. Do you have an overall theory? Do you want me to share my overall
[00:34:39] theory or is there anything else that you want to discuss first? My theory is too broken. Go ahead. OK, so my theory is basically she or her music was like his muse. That's how he made this amazing art. And then the fire happens.
[00:34:56] I'm not sure how or why if it was an accident. She gets disfigured from the fire. She's not beautiful anymore. She can't play her music anymore. He starts to love her and appreciate her less and less until she kills herself.
[00:35:10] And then he feels guilty and also just wants his muse back so that he can get his gift back of painting. And his attempt at doing this is using her body to create a portrait of her in an attempt to bring her back.
[00:35:27] But he seems to only be able to paint her disfigured form. And that's why he gets frustrated at the end, says I almost had it. Maybe he even does paint a proper portrait, but his mind like he's so screwed up that all he sees is
[00:35:41] the disfigured version of her. Or maybe she's just haunting him. I like that. Where does the child fit in? See, there's one of my episode lookbacks is where's the daughter? She's the rat. She died in the fire. Is she the rat?
[00:35:55] You know, like I like that idea because it explains why she's in a wheelchair in that one scene and how it happened and why he decides to keep parts of her body. I feel like that's a very comprehensive theory
[00:36:08] about everything we've seen so far in trying to make sense of all this. The third person that's in that, oh, I dreamt of this other person, but we always knew he lost it after you more. Who's that person?
[00:36:23] I think she's talking to her old self or that portrait of her. I think she starts to lose it too. Probably because of his behavior. Yeah. And so maybe at some point they both go insane and their daughter gets taken away from them.
[00:36:39] And then that really pushes her to do what she does. Yeah, I don't know, because we don't ever get, I don't think, unless there's a note that we can find any conclusive evidence as to what happens to the daughter.
[00:36:53] I feel like the daughter may have started the fire based on how angry she is with her dad. But maybe she dies in the fire. Maybe that's what also pushes the wife over the edge. Honestly, I feel like this whole,
[00:37:10] unless that's the purpose of the daughter and the story is pushing them over the edge, I don't understand the purpose of the daughter in this game. I think we answered as many questions as we could. And I think our ending timeline is pretty close
[00:37:26] and the theories are probably pretty accurate. Well, anything else that you want to say for layers of fear or scary Christmas? It's not like I'm not happy with the ending or I'm happy. I'm just left confused. So this is one of the games where
[00:37:41] it's not like I don't like it, but it's not like I like it. It's just I'm very. Yeah. And is that even neutral? I'm still confused. I think it's one where it kind of has to sink in. And I've had the I mean,
[00:37:54] I've had the opportunity to see it four times now. So I've obviously had a lot more time with it than you have. Yes. But I think as it sinks in, it'll make more sense than maybe in the season wrap up.
[00:38:09] You'll have more to say about it, but we did it. You got through scary Christmas. You got through another scary game. I did it. Well, you're getting better. Thank you. Guess we will see you all in the season wrap up episode in a few days and Merry Christmas.
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